Monday, June 30, 2008

B-HO needs to borrow a set

Wesley Clark is a low brow dope for disparaging McCain’s qualifications as Commander in Chief. Tom Harkin is low down dope for suggesting McCain’s family’s military background somehow disqualifies him to be Commander in Chief. Jay Rockefeller is creepy dope for questioning McCain’s mental stability as result of five years as a POW. Gen McPeak is a colossal dope for calling McCain fat. Other Dem surrogates are dopes for questioning everything about McCain from his age to his shoe size.

B-HO is the dopiest among some pretty dopey people on the left for not calling knock it off. When B-HO stands by and lets girly boys like Clark, McPeak, Harkin and Rockefeller say stupid things about McCain without comment, B-HO proves himself to be a bigger split tail and arrogant clown coward than those making the comments in the first place.

But then if he’s too big a wuss to ask his affirmative action queen wife to shut her suck, how could we expect B-HO to man up and stand up to someone who presumably has a set , even if, as in the case with the four above, they really don’t.

Maybe B-HO could borrow a set from James Carville. Say what you want about Carville, he calls it like he sees it. He called a sitting Dem governor – Bill Richardson - Judas right before Easter. He’s never taken it back and never even hinted at an apology. Everyone should have one friend like James Carville.

Delahunt smug weasel

A MA Dem named Billy Delahunt was act acting smug on the hill the other day. No news there. Smugness and Dems is like Dems and higher taxes, Dems and socialized medicine, Dems and gun grabbing legislation, Dems and surrendering American interests in the Middle East, Dems and…well you get the point smugness and Dems go hand in hand.

Billy the dope Delahut took his smugness a step further when he suggested that it was a good thing that al Qaeda finally got a good look at Vice President Cheney’s Chief of Staff David Addington. Look at the video here and see if you don’t agree.

So Lex fired the following off to Billy the dope @: William.Delahunt@mail.house.gov:

Mr. Delahunt:

“Right, well, I’m sure they are watching, and I’m glad the American people finally have the chance to see you, Mr. Delahunt.” We know a smarmy, craven little weasel when we see one.

How about growing a set of onions and offering one of those non-apology apologies you slimy pols are famous for:

I’m sorry if my self righteous stupidity offended anyone. I was just trying to get my mug on the six o’clock news. Throwing another American under the bus seemed OK at the time. If you were offended – too bad for you, you really shouldn’t be – but OK, if it gets me on the six o’clock news again, I’m sorry.

Or you could try acting like a man and offering a sincere apology which would go something like this:

What I said to Mr. Addington the other day was wrong. Though we disagree on many issues, Mr. Addington is a faithful public servant and deserved better treatment than my petty and pointless taunting. I apologize to Mr. Addington, his family, my constituents and the American people who deserve so much better from an elected official. I beg your pardon. I will do better in the future.

Friday, June 27, 2008

"Shall not" too wishy washy for four of the Supremes

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Pretty damned clear to anyone who can read English. But apparently not to the four brain-dead Libs on the Supreme Court who use that court to bestow all sorts of extra-constitutional rights on child rapists, minorities, eco-nuts and terrorists. The five dopes in robes also used the court recently to undermine private property rights and restrict political free speech.

Let’s look at a well regulated Militia. We need go no further than the next amendment to understand what the framers were worried about and had in mind when they crafted the Second Amendment. The Third Amendment states:

No Soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the Owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

Unlawful quartering of troops of one the major grievances the framers brought against the king. The Second Amendment is an insurance policy against such goofy government edicts. More important, the Second Amendment is the guarantor of free speech, the right to assemble and every other right contained in the rest of our Constitution.

As for the notion that the right was directed at the militia rather than a general individual right, consider that the constitution mentions “the people” – as in “We the people” – only six times. In every case the framers meant the people of the United States. When they wrote “We the people…” they did not intend for future Supreme Court justices to interpret that language to mean militias, or the congress, or business people, or land owners. They meant for the language to apply to all of the people. So anyone who thinks that the words “the right of the people to keep and bear arms” is somehow directed only at militiamen would have to think that “We the people…” refers only to those who ratified the Constitution.

Last, and this is what really gets me, the words “shall not be infringed” is as clear as it possibly could be. "Shall not" doesn’t mean “may be if a mayor thinks it should be” or “can be if some nut kills a bunch of people on a college campus” or “ought to be if guns look fully automatic even if they are not” or "might be if five dopes in robes think they should be." It means “shall not be infringed.” And that is pretty ironclad.

I’d like to ask the four dissenting dopes this question:

If you wanted to give law abiding citizens of a country an unfettered right to possess and bear arms, how would you write that into the constitution in fewest words possible? I don’t think that they could come up with a better phrasing than that which is already contained in the U.S. Constitution: The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Thursday, June 26, 2008

Oh yeah, and there's this

Yesterday underscored one more reason conservatives ought to have an advantage in this year’s election – the Supreme Court. Five dopes in robes decided that child rape is not serious enough to warrant the death penalty.

Seems to me, if you’re going to have a death penalty, it ought to be for the criminals who commit the worst crimes. You know, Tim McVeigh comes to mind. Next in my mind is some sick bastard who rapes a defenseless child. And I’m not talking about the - oh my God, I swear I though she was 18 – child. I’m talking about five and under.

Lex isn’t crazy about the state killing its citizens. But I’d kill a hundred scum-bags if it saved a single life. To be effective the death penalty needs to be swift sure and rare and applied equally against the worst of the worst. If child rape doesn’t include the worst of the worst, it’s hard to imagine who would be in that category.

So if you’re looking for one reason why you ought to go out and vote McCain think about the five unelected dopes in robes running the country.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Issues favor conservatives

Democrats want to lose, by quitting while we’re ahead, a very winnable war- a war in a strategically important part of the world. By quitting, Democrats would humiliate America and leave the Middle East and the strategic resources that flow from it in the hands of Islamo-Terror-Fascists.

Democrats want to nationalize healthcare turning the best healthcare system in the world into a high tech federally run organization with all of the compassion, commitment to prompt accurate service and friendly assistance of your local DMV.

Democrats want to nationalize the oil industry. The same people that can’t make the Post Office letter carrying operation, AMTRAK or even the Senate Dining room turn a profit even though those operations are heavily subsidized monopolies or semi-monopolies want to take over the US oil industry. The result will be $12 a gallon gasoline – when you can find any.

Democrats reject exploiting our own traditional natural resources during this energy crunch instead favoring wind and solar power along with conservation. Combined, the three will account for about 1/10th of one percent of the energy needed by Americans in the next ten years.

Democrats want to raise taxes on the “rich” which we know by now means everybody NOT rich or savvy enough to set up Ted Kennedy type off shore “investments.” In other words, they favor taxing the not so rich middle class working saps that are forever on the pay-in side of an ever increasing government redistribution of wealth system.

Democrats favor an open border and amnesty for upwards of 12 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS. That number will grow to 50 million when chain migration forms are completed for family members.

There are other issues from gun control and private property rights to FISA and the global warming hoax that could be addressed here but listed above are 6 major issues where Democrats come down on the wrong side of probably a 60-40 split of American citizens. And yes the war is one of those issues. Given the opportunity to win or quit, Americans will vote to win every time.

So Dems are on the wrong side of all of these key issues, yet they are expected to sweep to victory in the fall. B-HO has between a 12-15 point lead on McCain. How can that be?

Simple there are no strong conservative voices in the Rep party. What few true conservatives there are seem to think that moving to the center will save their waffling asses. The sad part is that issues favor conservatives if they have the manly orbs to stand up and fight on principal rather than trying to split the baby in some misguided effort to save their seats.

Tuesday, June 24, 2008

Sometime the stereotype fits

Holy Cow! Imus is in trouble again. How can that be? Wasn’t the “nappy headed ho” experience seared, seared into his soul?

Imus is in trouble for, according to Rev Al let’s all go burn Freddy’s Fashion Mart Sharpton, racial stereotyping. Well we can’t have any of that. That flap got started when Imus – foolishly - asked what color Dallas Cowboy defensive star Adam “Pacman” Jones was. Jones, a balck man, it seems has rung up more arrests and court appearances than tackles since joining the NFL.

But if someone fits a stereotypical pattern, why is it inappropriate to point it out? And how does the stereotype become the stereotype anyway? “Stereotype” is printing term - a metal printing plate or a raised printing surface, such as type. And what comes off the plate? Hopefully, very similar printed pages.

In human terms, we use the word “stereotypical” to describe someone who comports to a set image type for a group. Movies use this all the time as a laugh line. When the stereotypical gay man, wearing a pink ascot, flits into the biker bar and lisps in high over dramatic feminine voice, “Say bartender where are all the boys?” The Bartender says, “Oh, their out back kicking the crap out of some fag.” The gay guy lowers his voice eight octaves and says, “Oh! No shit!?”

Well the point is that the stereotype became the stereotype somehow. It wasn’t made up out of whole cloth. But decent people avoid throwing people into stereotypical catch alls. Stereotyping generally is in very bad taste unless it’s used against gun owners, truckers, Southerners, NASCAR fans, Christians – especially Catholics, conservatives or white men. Then, of course, it’s quite all right...and hillarious.

It’s only when you might use the stereotype as a police method to protect the country – as in profiling – that stereotyping becomes problematic for Libs. And that’s what Imus says he was pointing to in his comment. The “I” man claims that he was pointing out that all of Pacman’s problems might be because white cops were profiling a black man. Yeah right. Wink wink. But It’ll probably work. After all, in Lib's minds - insert oxymoron joke here - that would be true.

Monday, June 23, 2008

Incentives work everytime they are tried

MyWay.com is running this today:

By GLEN JOHNSON
PHOENIX (AP) - Sen. John McCain hopes to solve the country's energy crisis with cold hard cash.

The Republican presidential nominee-in-waiting thinks the government should offer a $300 million prize to the person who can develop an automobile battery that leapfrogs existing technology.

The prize would equate to $1 for every man, woman and child in the country.

In a speech being delivered Monday at Fresno State University in California, McCain is also proposing stiffer fines for automakers who skirt existing fuel-efficiency standards and incentives to increase use of domestic and foreign ethanol.

Seems Lex proposed an even more generous prize incentive about three-and-a-half years ago for President Bush’s State of the Union Address – sans the dopey fuel efficiency standards BS and even dopeyer food into oil proposal. When things go to hell in a hand basket, I’d rather walk to the market and be able to buy food than be able to drive there and either not have any food or what food there is be so expensive that I can’t afford my daily arugula portion.


So here’s what we learned about this issue at Scout camp last week. On the last night in the woods we got a hard rain and all of the tents were soaked. We had to be out of camp by 11:00 a.m. So the decision was made to pack the tents wet and dry them out when we got back to the Scout Hut when we returned.

Everything was laid out and the drying process had begun. Boys being boys, they began to drift away from the job and it took as many boys to round up the wayward boys that the work force was cut by about half. Then dark clouds began to form in the west. Then low thunder was heard.

Word went out for all hands to report to the Scout field to sweep, fold and pack tents or we would have to start the whole process again inside one tent at a time. That would take forever. Soon, faced with the choice of getting the job done quickly and going home or screwing around and being there all day, the boys really turned to. They finished the job that looked as if it would take several hours with the boys avoiding work in about half-an-hour with everyone working together.

The same is true with alternative fuels. Once the incentives are in place - $ - innovation will follow. That is why I’ve been thinking $5 a gallon gas wouldn’t be so bad because at that high price it’d inspire innovation that $25 a barrel oil never could. It’d also force the green weenies under large rocks when the American people said to hell with the brown winged, orange throated, three toed, extended belly, retracted nose, common gnat – go get the oil.

Saturday, June 14, 2008

Russert R.I.P. / Scout Camp

R.I.P. Tim Russert. How did a class act like Russert end up playing second fiddle to a dope like Keith Olbermann at NBC?

Lex and jr. are off to Boy Scout camp this week. See you next Monday with the details.

Friday, June 13, 2008

5 dopes in robes strike again

I do not know how the 5 dopes in robes came up with the idea that unlawful enemy combatants are eligible to all of the civil rights of a US citizen. It’s unbelievable, in my opinion.

The most immediate result will be fewer POWs in this terror war. That will lead to more investigations of US troops by dunderheads like Jack the ass Murtha and RC Turd-bin. Word will circulate, why bother risking life and limb to capture one of these scum-bags when a detail of ACLU lawyers will get him off because he was not properly Mirandized. If some scum-bag does happen to be taken alive he’s likely to be turned over to the Iraqis or some other third party for “safe keeping.” And again the whiners will whine.

It would seem we are taking the same approach to the war on terror as we are on energy. Sit around and complain about the situation while tying our own hands for no good reason and not really trying to tackle the problem. This whole thing gives new meaning to the childhood taunt, “I can whip you with one hand tied behind my back.”

I just cannot understand allowing the worse kind of foreign human debris who are trying to destroy us access to our court system. If Reps had conservative candidate, they could make a lot of hay on this one. I cannot help but believe that there has to be about 80-20 split on this issue - with the 80% believing that terrorists should be treated like terrorists. But alas John McCain would close Gitmo and bring the vermin to our shores which would ironically give the louses the exact standing the 5 dopes in robes heaped on the creeps yesterday. If this lunacy is allowed to stand, John McCain won’t have to worry about closing Gitmo, the need for it will be obviated by the 5 dopes’ ruling. The idea of keeping the creeps on Gitmo was to have legal standing to say that they were not on US soil so US law doesn’t apply.

These bastards are not soldiers. These are terrorists. And the 5 dopes have effectively granted them the legal rights of a US citizen.

Scalia said it best: The nation will live to regret what the court has done today. I dissent.

Thursday, June 12, 2008

RC Durbin mangles Dante; Man quits non-existent job

Richard Cranium Durbin act smart looks stupid and self-serving as ever

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of great moral crises maintain their neutrality.-- Dante Alighieri

Wow that’s pretty powerful stuff. RC Durbin tried to look smart and turned Dante’s phrase into, “The hottest ring in hell is reserved for politicians who attack their opponents family.” Sorry Dick just a bit too self serving to have oomph of Dante’s quote. The hottest circle in a very warm place is reserved for craven politician who compare their countrymen serving in harm’s way with the most despicable people in history – Pol Pot, the people who ran the Soviet Gulag – and that’d be Dick the Dick Turd-bin. What a punk.

Man quits non-job job

After Lex exposed B-HO’s hypocrisy on Jim Johnson “working” on B-HO’s Veep selection committee yesterday morning, Johnson was forced to step down from his non-job job by the afternoon. How does that work? He never worked for B-HO in the first place so how do you let a guy that go?

B-HO: Look you’re fired!
JJ: Wait, I don’t “work” for you. So you can’t really fire me.
B-HO: Oh yeah, right. Well then you are no longer part of that non-working entity looking for my Veep candidate.
JJ: Says who? I’ll start my own non-working selection committee. What are you going to about it? We don’t work for you. I’ll hold daily press conferences charting our progress. Have people in for interviews. When I come up with Al Gore, I dare you to criticize it.
B-HO: OK let’s say you did work me. Could I let you go then?
JJ: Sure, but you said I don’t. So you’re screwed now. In the military it’s called accepting responsibility for the things you and your subordinates do and fail to do. But don’t worry about that. Nobody expects anyone to accept responsibility anymore. Look at Katrina. People still blame the president for the Superdome disaster.
B-HO: Yeah, yeah, yeah how about if you just resign?
JJ: Resign? From what? To whom?
B-HO: Well from Veep selection committee and to me.
JJ: Why? I apparently have nothing to do with you.
B-HO: Damn it Jim, I’m only a hare brained political candidate. Help me out here or you’ll never have another non-working position in my administration again.
JJ: Ooooooooooh that’s a scary thought.
B-HO: Look you’ll resign by noon or I’ll assign the Shrillda Beast to your non-working Veep working committee.
JJ: See ya. I’m out of here.
B-HO: Who says you can’t fire people that don’t work for you?

There’s a Seinfeld episode where Kramer works in office at a job he was never hired to do. Look it up to know what kind of people are heading up B-Ho’s Veep selection committee.

Wednesday, June 11, 2008

B-HO 50% dope 50% liar

God gives Lex a few days off.
Lightening fried my modem Thurs. But we’re back. I know you’re Lex starved, so here we go.

Only an idiot or a liar would use these words to describe someone who doesn’t work them:

“They’re performing that job well. It’s a volunteer, unpaid position. And they’re giving me information, and I will then exercise judgment in terms of who I want to select as a vice presidential candidate. So these aren’t folks who are working for me, they’re not people who I have assigned to a particular job in a future administration.”

That’s the one and only B-HO explaining away the appointment of Jim Johnson to the Dem nominee's Veep selection committee. Turns out Johnson’s got a problem. He took some loans - $7 million worth - below market rate – ah would that make them sub-prime? – I believe it would - from Countrywide Financial Corp.

Well good for Johnson. Who cares? As long as he pays it back, it’s no big deal. Right? Well not exactly. Countrywide has been a favorite target of ol’ B-HO. He once called Countrywide “the people who are responsible for infecting the economy and helping to create a home foreclosure crisis.”

But that was then and this is now. B-HO’s a little less critical of Countrywide when one of his own is caught in the dealings or mis-dealings. So the gifted one tried to blab his way out of it. But alas, because there was no teleprompter or prepared text there, he ends up looking like an idiot or liar.

First off if they are “performing that job,” they work for you - a j-o-b being synonymous with w-o-r-k to most people. And as anyone who has ever worked for dad in the yard on Saturdays knows, it doesn’t make any difference if you’re paid or not. It is still work and we all know who’s the boss - on Saturday mornings it's dad and on B-HO’s Veep committee it’s B-HO. Well maybe, Rev Wright will take the blame, or Bill Ayers or Michelle. So for B-HO to say Johnson isn't working for him proves he's the dope Lex has been saying he is or damn liar. It's really hard to tell. With Clinton, we all knew he was lying. With ol' B-HO, being a dope has a 50-50 chance with being a liar. But hey, neither is good.

The way to explain away someone who doesn’t work for you is like this:

He doesn’t work for me. He provides no service or advice to me or anyone associated with me.

So is B-HO a new kind of politician? No he’s the same self-serving say anything do anything bag of excrement we’re used to. You can bet B-HO’s handlers are going to be telling him to keep his mouth shut if there is no teleprompter or script there.

Wednesday, June 04, 2008

Ailing Dems jump border for healthcare

Two Democrat senate icons recently entered the lottery to get a bed at a Canadian hospital for what ails them. Ted Kennedy decided to get his number as a result of the discovery that he had a malignant brain tumor. Later in the week, Senator Robert Byrd signed up for Canadian healthcare to treat a persistent high temperature.

Both men thanked the Canadian single payer system that has delivered the kind of medical care that would give them a fighting chance. Kennedy’s statement read in part:

Ah yes, it would have been nice to have my procedure done at Duke University with a team of top notch surgeons within a week of the diagnosis. But that’s just not possible in George Bush’s America. So I’ve entered the Canadian healthcare lottery. They have promised to review my case within the year. I am deeply committed to government run universal healthcare but it’d have been terribly hypocritical of me to take advantage of my position and wealth and hop on a plane to Cuba where everyone’s covered and we all know the healthcare is superb. It’s just a damn shame George Bush ruined the only other decent universal healthcare system in the world in Iraq under Saddam Hussein.

Robert Byrd’s statement included the now famous line, “I insisted on Canadian healthcare because it’s better than ours.” Right wing zealots jumped all over the 90 year old Byrd calling him, of course what else, unpatriotic. One patriotic WV 7-11 owner took all of the Molson beer and Canadian bacon off his shelves as a protest for Byrd “not taking the same run down healthcare we’re all saddled with.”

Well that’s not exactly how it all went down now is it. Both men were provided the best medical attention available anywhere in the world – right here in the good ol’ U.S. of A. Is it expensive? You bet. A great deal of the high costs are because the government is already too involved in the medical industry.

Until Kennedy and/or Byrd hop a flight to somewhere else for their medical treatment, you can bet the US system is pretty darn good.

They’ll start hopping flights about three years after healthcare becomes universal and “free” here in the US.

Tuesday, June 03, 2008

Pay no attention to the success in Iraq!

It’s hard to find anywhere in the lame stream media or from a Dem presidential candidate, but apparently Gen Petraeus has begun to drain the swamp that lefties claimed was an Iraqi quagmire a mere two hour after the invasion started. After a spike in casualties during April due to hard fighting in Sadr City and Mosul, May saw the lowest number of monthly US casualties since the war began.

Egad man doesn’t Gen Petraeus know that B-HO has opposed this war from the start and declared it lost? Any success in Iraq will make the Dem’s Messiah look less Messial-like. No wonder the Dems were trashing Petraeus and declaring the surge a failure before it even began. Success in Iraq equals disaster for the Dems. Odd huh? An American political party’s success is tied to America’s failure in war. Who’d a thunk it? But jeez, don't question their patriotism.

And Iraq is not just succeeding militarily. Iraqi oil production is the highest since the war began. Sunnis have turned against al Qaeda and their brutal form jihad that targets Iraqi Muslims when it’s too hard or too dangerous to target Americans. Shiites have abandoned their militias in Sadr City and Mosul in favor of trusting the elected Iraqi government to make their local hell-holes more livable.

But the MSM and Dems are like kids at Christmas. They drop the box of badly need underwear and grab the next box in hope of finding the latest X-box game. For the MSM and Dems successes in Iraq are like the badly needed underwear - essential but no fun. So they drop and ignored that box in favor of some Iraqi political scandal or a soldier who shoots up a Koran. Now those stories are fun!

But progress in this part of the world is tenuous. Setbacks will occur. And the MSM and B-HO will be there to trumpet each and every setback with all the joy of 12 year old opening the latest Wii at Christmas. But the biggest setback for Iraq may occur here in the US on Nov 4th. If there are enough brain-dead people voting in the US to elect one of their own, the hard won gains in Iraq and the Middle East may be lost. Instead of having a solid democratic ally in Iraq as a counterweight to Iran, we are likely to see Iraq slip into chaos while our Pres B-HO sips tea with the lunatic dictator causing the trouble. Perhaps B-HO will go the extra mile with Ahmadinejad and thank him for...now how did frozen face Pelosi put it...oh yeah, Iran's "goodwill."

Idiot! You just can't make this stuff up.

Monday, June 02, 2008

B-HO quits Trinity, looks to Mullah Omar for spirtual guidance

OK a bit over the top. But how could Omar be much different from the anti-American Rev Wright or Fr. Pfleger?

When the B-HO/Trinity Church scandal broke, Lex pointed out that B-HO’s little problem was with his racist preacher. His big problem was that he belonged to a church full of racists – as evidenced by the mass cheering in the aisles of the “church” whenever something racist was said. We saw that with Rev Wright and again most recently with Fr. Pfleger. Americans can excuse one racist relationship with a beloved but “crazy” uncle or even your own grandmother. But how can you excuse a whole church full of racist relationships? You can’t.

And so, just as B-HO’s religious affiliation with Trinity was founded on political expedience, it was ended. Were the bird-brain just the junior senator from IL, no doubt he’d still be sitting in that church soaking up the political benefits while his dopey wife and innocent daughters soaked up the hate.

But now B-HO is the presumptive presidential nominee of the Dem Party. So Trinity had to go. And the reason given by B-HO and Rev Al Sharpton for B-HO’s departure from Trinity? Well B-HO just couldn’t let the MEDIA ruin his church with all of the media attention.

Sure. It’s all the media’s fault for exposing Trinity’s not so hopeful message rather than the message itself that’s the problem. That makes sense…if you’re a do-as-I-say Lib. If on the other hand you have an ounce of common sense, you’re probably of the opinion that the media didn’t cause the racism that seems to be fundamental to Trinity. You’re probably thinking only an idiot could sit in that church, mingle with loons that cheer its racist tenants, and then say straight-faced that Trinity is not the church it was 20 years ago.

Well then when did it change? Rev Wright was 86ed from B-HO’s presidential announcement in Springfield because B-HO knew Wright had a tendency to say stupid and inflammatory things. So B-HO knew Wright was problem back then. So when did Trinity morph from a church with a message of Christian hope to a “black church” with a racist message of black theology? When did Trinity change and when did B-HO know it had changed? Something tells me the loons didn’t conveniently take over the day after B-HO made his big announcement.

THEN THERE’S THIS: The Griffin notes that he and B-HO got the exact same number of votes in MI – ah nearly one – but B-HO got almost half the Dem delegates. B-HO gets zero votes and yet gets half the delegates. I didn't hear one pundit make this very important point over the weekend. And Dems still have the gall to bitch that there was disenfranchisement in FL in 2000. Hat tip to the Griffin.